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Dr. Phil Arnold and Dr. Jim Tabor speaking about Revelation, the Seven Seals, and Koresh's interpretation of the Bible on the Ron Engelman Show. Label reads "Copy of discussion bettween [sic] Dr. Phil Arnold and Dr. Jim Tabor. KGBS radio, Ron Engelman Show 10:34 AM April 1, 1993."

Dr. Jim Tabor speaking about David Koresh's writing on the First Seal of Revelation and his possible intentions to exit Mt. Carmel. Label reads, "Copy of discussion bettween [sic] Dr. Phil Arnold and Dr. Jim Tabor. KGBS radio, Ron Engelman Show 10:34 AM April 1, 1993."

Johnny has a conversation about a live show that is friend on the other end of the line played. Johnny also talks about a book that he is writing and how he wrote the ending first and is writing backwards. Later on, Johnny talks to Sam about the various guns they own. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Johnny talks with an unknown woman about writing his biography and the various things he has done with it, such as writing his own death at the end. The woman also talks to Johnny about writing her biography as well. The conversation eventually turns to talk about how Johnny went around and interviewed the people that he knows for his biography so that they could write their own story for it. Johnny tells a story of a former girlfriend who was forced by her father to drop out of college and forbade her from seeing him again and how they finally met up 30 years later. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

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