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Joan Irelan, interviewed by her daughter, discusses how she managed to overcome her life's obstacles in order to pursue her dream of getting an education and being a self-sufficient woman while raising her children. She details her undergraduate studies at Columbia University, her marriage, living in Germany, and attending law school at Hoftra University.

Sam and Johnny talk about a New York Times article about Afghanistan and the Taliban. They also talk about the story of Mohammad and Islam. During their conversation, Sam tells Johnny of the Bohemian Sausage Festival and Johnny reminisces about going to a gun show after meeting up with Sam in Iowa. They also talk about the reactions of people after September 11, 2001 and what to expect in the coming days and the crusades during the middle ages. Sam also talks about writing about his father throughout his life. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.