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Lee Hudman discusses how her ties with the university brought her back to San Marcos long after she graduated. She begins with describing how she and her husband lived in Dr. James Taylor's garage apartment during their studies before moving to Washington D.C. She also talks about the changes that took place in San Marcos and the university during her absence, what she believes Texas State will be like in future years, and talks about the Alumni House's history in relation to LBJ.

Johnny talks to Sam about finally understanding Sam’s love of driving. Sam tells Johnny a story about a guy he knew who taught his kid how to shoot a .22 by having the kid shoot a cigarette out of his mouth. They also talk about Charles Manson and his magnetism with women, Wang Poe and Buddhism, mind substance and Robin Williams. After the conversation with Sam, the recording picks up mid conversation between Johnny and an unknown woman. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Meeting minutes from the Texas State University System Board of Regents.