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Sammie Hardeman shares his experience in the food service industry and how it led him to his job at the university. He recalls being born in Lockhart and later moving to San Marcos. He also talks about his barbequing business and the private parties he would put on and cook for university presidents. He mentions Dr. Evans, Dr. Flowers, and Dr. McCrocklin.

Johnny tells Sam a story about working outside, playing racquetball and feeling alone at the Y. Johnny elaborates on loneliness and how people surround themselves with people to not be alone. Their conversation then moves to the Bible and matters that are of a spiritual nature. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Meeting minutes from the Texas State University System Board of Regents.