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Dr. Walton D. Hardesty talks about his transition from working at Camp Gary to becoming a psychology professor at SWTSC. Along with detailing his teaching career and his popular courses in human sexuality, he shares his thoughts on the changes Texas State has seen in its student body and its attitudes, the campus layout, its role in regulating students' lives, and its reputation from the 1960s to the 1980s.

Sam and Johnny talk about a New York Times article about Afghanistan and the Taliban. They also talk about the story of Mohammad and Islam. During their conversation, Sam tells Johnny of the Bohemian Sausage Festival and Johnny reminisces about going to a gun show after meeting up with Sam in Iowa. They also talk about the reactions of people after September 11, 2001 and what to expect in the coming days and the crusades during the middle ages. Sam also talks about writing about his father throughout his life. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.