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Frederick Fahringer talks about growing up in Wisconsin, attending Bucknell University, and coming to Texas via the Air Force and Lackland Airfield. Beyond describing his long career with the Air Force, he shares how he became a psychology professor at SWTSU. He also discusses his personal philosophies and beliefs about students and college, and mentions little anecdotes about his teaching assistants and Dr. Clarence Schultz.

Sam and Johnny talk about a New York Times article about Afghanistan and the Taliban. They also talk about the story of Mohammad and Islam. During their conversation, Sam tells Johnny of the Bohemian Sausage Festival and Johnny reminisces about going to a gun show after meeting up with Sam in Iowa. They also talk about the reactions of people after September 11, 2001 and what to expect in the coming days and the crusades during the middle ages. Sam also talks about writing about his father throughout his life. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.