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Terry Serur talks about his family history and local business, Serur's Varsity Shop. Mr. Serur describes what Texas State was like when he was a student in the 1960s, how he thinks San Marcos has changed, his family's association with LBJ.

Johnny talks to Sam about finally understanding Sam’s love of driving. Sam tells Johnny a story about a guy he knew who taught his kid how to shoot a .22 by having the kid shoot a cigarette out of his mouth. They also talk about Charles Manson and his magnetism with women, Wang Poe and Buddhism, mind substance and Robin Williams. After the conversation with Sam, the recording picks up mid conversation between Johnny and an unknown woman. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Cover story on Augie Meyers