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In the second interview, Daniel Farlow discusses his teaching career in the political science department and the evolution of the college from SWTSTC to SWTSC to SWTSU. He talks about his studies at UT-Austin and being hired by Dr. James Taylor for the then-social science division. He discusses different university administrations of Presidents John Flowers, James McCrocklin, Billy Mac Jones, Lee Smith and Robert L. Hardesty. He shares his predictions for the university's future and its academic reputation.

Johnny talks to Sam about finally understanding Sam’s love of driving. Sam tells Johnny a story about a guy he knew who taught his kid how to shoot a .22 by having the kid shoot a cigarette out of his mouth. They also talk about Charles Manson and his magnetism with women, Wang Poe and Buddhism, mind substance and Robin Williams. After the conversation with Sam, the recording picks up mid conversation between Johnny and an unknown woman. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Cover story on Hank Williams III