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Captain Wilford Swinney talks about his upbringing and how he began working for the Austin Police Department. He shares some of his past experiences as an officer, recapping his responsibilities and past duties. Captain Swinney outlines the changes he has seen in the department's organization and resources over the years, especially as related to Austin's growth. Discussed topics include gang activity, the Ut-Austin shooting in 1966, changing uniforms and police cars, and women working in the police force.

Sam and Johnny talk about a New York Times article about Afghanistan and the Taliban. They also talk about the story of Mohammad and Islam. During their conversation, Sam tells Johnny of the Bohemian Sausage Festival and Johnny reminisces about going to a gun show after meeting up with Sam in Iowa. They also talk about the reactions of people after September 11, 2001 and what to expect in the coming days and the crusades during the middle ages. Sam also talks about writing about his father throughout his life. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.