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This is a continuation from the previous tape. They continue to make of list of people in history who have and did not have the “right stuff”. Sam also talks more about filming The Right Stuff. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Sam and Johnny discuss writing the epilogue, Chuck Yeager’s abilities, how Sam is receiving scripts and conditioning for polo. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Sam and Johnny talk about a New York Times article about Afghanistan and the Taliban. They also talk about the story of Mohammad and Islam. During their conversation, Sam tells Johnny of the Bohemian Sausage Festival and Johnny reminisces about going to a gun show after meeting up with Sam in Iowa. They also talk about the reactions of people after September 11, 2001 and what to expect in the coming days and the crusades during the middle ages. Sam also talks about writing about his father throughout his life. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.