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This is a continuation from the previous tape. They continue to make of list of people in history who have and did not have the “right stuff”. Sam also talks more about filming The Right Stuff. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Sam and Johnny discuss writing the epilogue, Chuck Yeager’s abilities, how Sam is receiving scripts and conditioning for polo. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Vernon McDonald details his relationship with Milton Jowers, how the university's basketball team has changed over the years he has played for and coached it (1950s through 1980s), and what he sees in the team's future. He mentions other topics such as school registration, Dr. Evans, Dr. Flowers, Dr. McCrocklin, LBJ, Oscar Strahan, Coach Wacker, and the Strahan Coliseum.

Cover story on Royce Showalter