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Johnny talks about an old girlfriend named Evelyn and the first time they met. He gives a description of her physical appearance and how they “made out” in a car. There are also various other things that are hard to hear or understand because of the low volume. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

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On this side of the tape, Sam and Johnny play guitar and sing songs. They discuss different places they have lived, how Los Angeles started out as a hacienda, how to become a “man with a mission”, how Sam’s first play had old men in it and how his plays have young men who turn old. They also discuss the racial tensions with Jazz music in the 1940’s and how they should make movies about it. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Johnny discusses the contents of a letter he received from a girlfriend about how she is not in love with him. Johnny goes on to talk about the break up and some of his past relationships. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Three girls (L-R; Anna Swanson, Lilly Boone, Camille Swanson) on a bench reading The Texas Observer newspaper

Sam and Johnny talk about a New York Times article about Afghanistan and the Taliban. They also talk about the story of Mohammad and Islam. During their conversation, Sam tells Johnny of the Bohemian Sausage Festival and Johnny reminisces about going to a gun show after meeting up with Sam in Iowa. They also talk about the reactions of people after September 11, 2001 and what to expect in the coming days and the crusades during the middle ages. Sam also talks about writing about his father throughout his life. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.