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Johnny and Sam talk about Sam’s book that he is finishing, going to the Kentucky Derby and getting an autograph from Eddie Arcaro. The conversation shifts to a discussion about the book Johnny is working on, watching the Pelican Brief with Scarlett and Sam’s acting in it. Johnny talks about troubles with drugs, a visit from an old friend, and Sam reads a passage of his book. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

This side is a continuation of the discussion on the previous side. Johnny candidly talks with an unknown man about beds. The unknown man tells a story about working at a feed and pet store. Johnny talks about certain aspects of the way he was raised, what he likes about the character of Scrooge in A Christmas Carol and why it is the book of choice amongst drug users. Johnny also talks about advice his mother gave him when he was younger. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

This interview was conducted in Spring 2021 as part of The Make Your Mark Student Audio Project. This project is limited to graduating seniors who were asked to reflect on their time at Texas State University and discuss their experiences.