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In the second interview, Daniel Farlow discusses his teaching career in the political science department and the evolution of the college from SWTSTC to SWTSC to SWTSU. He talks about his studies at UT-Austin and being hired by Dr. James Taylor for the then-social science division. He discusses different university administrations of Presidents John Flowers, James McCrocklin, Billy Mac Jones, Lee Smith and Robert L. Hardesty. He shares his predictions for the university's future and its academic reputation.

Johnny has a conversation about a live show that is friend on the other end of the line played. Johnny also talks about a book that he is writing and how he wrote the ending first and is writing backwards. Later on, Johnny talks to Sam about the various guns they own. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Johnny talks with an unknown woman about writing his biography and the various things he has done with it, such as writing his own death at the end. The woman also talks to Johnny about writing her biography as well. The conversation eventually turns to talk about how Johnny went around and interviewed the people that he knows for his biography so that they could write their own story for it. Johnny tells a story of a former girlfriend who was forced by her father to drop out of college and forbade her from seeing him again and how they finally met up 30 years later. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.