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Commemorates twentieth anniversary of signing of Higher Education Act at Southwest Texas State University, November 8, 1965. Includes speakers William D. Ford and Robert Hardesty. Recorded November 7, 1985, by SWTSU Media Services at Evans Auditorium, Southwest Texas State University, San Marcos, Texas.

Johnny talks to Sam about finally understanding Sam’s love of driving. Sam tells Johnny a story about a guy he knew who taught his kid how to shoot a .22 by having the kid shoot a cigarette out of his mouth. They also talk about Charles Manson and his magnetism with women, Wang Poe and Buddhism, mind substance and Robin Williams. After the conversation with Sam, the recording picks up mid conversation between Johnny and an unknown woman. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Cover story on Rex Foster