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Sam and Johnny talk about rugged individualism, luck and circumstances as factors of success and achievement. They try to define rugged and come to the conclusion that it is a false concept. They also briefly talk about the movie “The Right Stuff” and various things about it. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Sam and Johnny continue their discussion on rugged individualism, what the rugged individual would posses as far as material things, knowing whether you have ruggedness or not and having the “right stuff”. They also make a list of people throughout history who have had the “right stuff”. Sam also discusses filming The Right Stuff and how hard it was to film yet everyone worked as a team and how writing letters are a more personal way of communication. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Lee Hudman discusses how her ties with the university brought her back to San Marcos long after she graduated. She begins with describing how she and her husband lived in Dr. James Taylor's garage apartment during their studies before moving to Washington D.C. She also talks about the changes that took place in San Marcos and the university during her absence, what she believes Texas State will be like in future years, and talks about the Alumni House's history in relation to LBJ.

Public Matters is the Master of Public Administration (MPA) program's magazine that highlights not only the program's achievements, events, and faculty research throughout the previous year, but also shines a light on our MPA alumni and their work within the field of public administration.