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Vernon McDonald details his relationship with Milton Jowers, how the university's basketball team has changed over the years he has played for and coached it (1950s through 1980s), and what he sees in the team's future. He mentions other topics such as school registration, Dr. Evans, Dr. Flowers, Dr. McCrocklin, LBJ, Oscar Strahan, Coach Wacker, and the Strahan Coliseum.

Johnny talks to Sam about finally understanding Sam’s love of driving. Sam tells Johnny a story about a guy he knew who taught his kid how to shoot a .22 by having the kid shoot a cigarette out of his mouth. They also talk about Charles Manson and his magnetism with women, Wang Poe and Buddhism, mind substance and Robin Williams. After the conversation with Sam, the recording picks up mid conversation between Johnny and an unknown woman. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

From 1999-2001, NASA partnered with History students at Southwest Texas State University (now Texas State) to conduct interviews with former employees who lived in the Central Texas area. Interviewees include managers, engineers, technicians, doctors, astronauts, and other employees of NASA and aerospace contractors who served in key roles during the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, Skylab, and Shuttle programs.