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Dr. Jim Tabor and Dr. Phil Arnold interiewed on the Ron Engleman Show

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Dr. Phil Arnold and Dr. Jim Tabor speaking about Revelation, the Seven Seals, and Koresh's interpretation of the Bible on the Ron Engelman Show. Label reads "Copy of discussion bettween [sic] Dr. Phil Arnold and Dr. Jim Tabor. KGBS radio, Ron Engelman Show 10:34 AM April 1, 1993."

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Dr. Jim Tabor interviewed on the Ron Engleman Show

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Dr. Jim Tabor speaking about David Koresh's writing on the First Seal of Revelation and his possible intentions to exit Mt. Carmel. Label reads, "Copy of discussion bettween [sic] Dr. Phil Arnold and Dr. Jim Tabor. KGBS radio, Ron Engelman Show 10:34 AM April 1, 1993."

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"Me and Sam (Both Sides),” pt 1

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The first parts of this recording are voice messages left for Johnny. After the messages, Sam tells a story about his son meeting a girl that he was fixated on at a restaurant. Sam talks about his family, burying his mom and growing up. Johnny talks about having reoccurring dreams about certain people in his life. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

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"Me and Sam (Both Sides),” pt 2

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This is a continuation of side A. They talk about memories and the difference between American and British actors. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.