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Joan Irelan, interviewed by her daughter, discusses how she managed to overcome her life's obstacles in order to pursue her dream of getting an education and being a self-sufficient woman while raising her children. She details her undergraduate studies at Columbia University, her marriage, living in Germany, and attending law school at Hoftra University.

Johnny talks to Sam about finally understanding Sam’s love of driving. Sam tells Johnny a story about a guy he knew who taught his kid how to shoot a .22 by having the kid shoot a cigarette out of his mouth. They also talk about Charles Manson and his magnetism with women, Wang Poe and Buddhism, mind substance and Robin Williams. After the conversation with Sam, the recording picks up mid conversation between Johnny and an unknown woman. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Meeting minutes from the Texas State University System Board of Regents.

Meeting minutes from the Texas State University System Board of Regents.