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Empress Zedler oral history interview

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Empress Zedler discusses how she went about organizing courses and clinics for the university's special education department. These clinics brought lecturing scholars to teach university students methodology and topics relating to special education and helping children with special needs. Dr. Zedler mentions specific visiting professors as well as Dr. Flowers in particular.

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"Sam and John"

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Johnny talks to Sam about finally understanding Sam’s love of driving. Sam tells Johnny a story about a guy he knew who taught his kid how to shoot a .22 by having the kid shoot a cigarette out of his mouth. They also talk about Charles Manson and his magnetism with women, Wang Poe and Buddhism, mind substance and Robin Williams. After the conversation with Sam, the recording picks up mid conversation between Johnny and an unknown woman. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.