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Sam Holmes talks about growing up and the different jobs he's held in Austin, including selling newspapers and working in a grocery store as a child in the 1930s. He also shares memories of working at the Driskill Hotel in Austin, a popular political meeting ground when LBJ was president.

Johnny tells Sam a story about working outside, playing racquetball and feeling alone at the Y. Johnny elaborates on loneliness and how people surround themselves with people to not be alone. Their conversation then moves to the Bible and matters that are of a spiritual nature. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Cover story on Cave Catt Sammy

Cover story on Natalie Rose Capparelli