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This is a continuation from the previous tape. They continue to make of list of people in history who have and did not have the “right stuff”. Sam also talks more about filming The Right Stuff. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Sam and Johnny discuss writing the epilogue, Chuck Yeager’s abilities, how Sam is receiving scripts and conditioning for polo. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Lillian Dees talks about her experiences working under many different deans, including Bruce Roach, Ralph Houston, Keith Lovin, and departments, including Journalism and News Service and Liberal Arts. She describes how she acquired her final position as Director of the LBJ Student Center. She also recalls the changes in the campus, including buildings and student body population, over the twenty-year period that she was employed at Texas State. She discusses changing university administrations, alluding to President James McCrocklin and the McCrocklin Scandal, interim president Jerome Cates, and others. She recalls "Lillian Dees Day" created by Dr. Henry Norris.

In her second interview, Merry Kone Fitzpatrick talks about graduating from high school and attending college at SWTSTC. Along with describing her college and graduate courses and certain professors like Professor Green, Retta Murphy, James Taylor, Betty Jane Kissler, and Emmie Craddock, she discusses what the school, her first job during WWII, and her work supervising student teachers were like. She describes the then-social science division and its faculty, as well as campus buildings like Old Main and certain local characters. This interview covers the 1930s through the 1960s.

A publication for the faculty and staff of Southwest Texas State University

Cover story on Wayne Harper