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This is the transcript from the second of three interviews that Bruce Roche conducted with Dr. Flowers just prior to his retirement. Dr. Flowers (Class of 1913) was President of Southwest Texas State College from 1942-1964. In this interview, he talks about the development of general education requirements that brought the Humanities (arts and philosophy) back into mainstream course requirements. He discusses his opinions about faculty qualifications and who should supervise student teachers, about the college adopting a team-teaching approach, and the role of a college president. Flowers also talks about funding from the Danforth Foundation and the Hogg Foundation that allowed the school to implement programs it couldn’t otherwise afford. Interviewer Bruce Roche was director of the College News Service. This interview was the source material for his article “Goal: Excellence – Dr. Flowers’ Lifelong Watchword,” published in the Austin American-Statesmanon August 30, 1964.

Cover story on Ernest Tubb.

Additional machine-extracted names mentioned in this issue: Roy Acuff, David Allan, Buddy Allen, Black Bart, Toby Beau, Alan Brown, James Brown, Milton Brown, Johnny Bush, David Allan Coe, Rusty Cofield, John Conboye, Eldridge Davis, Kathy Deitsch, Floyd Domino, Rob Grimes, Chris Holzhaus, Elvis II, Mick Jagger, Waylon Jennings, Elton John, Linda Lovell, Bill Loyd, Steve Lucke, Skip Lutz, Tom Mathis, Augie Meyer, Ronnie Milsap, Maria Muldaur, Bettie Naylor, Willie Nelson, Jim Nesbitt, Elaine Noble, Chris O'Connell, Dwight Oberholzer, San Pedro, Elvis Presley, Rick Presley, Jimmy Rodgers, Johnny Rodriguez, Ron Rose, Larry Scherff, Jim Schumacher, Carly Simon, Hank Singer, Steve Spencer, Linda Stevenson, Bob Wills, Orth Woodruff.

Lillian Dees talks about her experiences working under many different deans, including Bruce Roach, Ralph Houston, Keith Lovin, and departments, including Journalism and News Service and Liberal Arts. She describes how she acquired her final position as Director of the LBJ Student Center. She also recalls the changes in the campus, including buildings and student body population, over the twenty-year period that she was employed at Texas State. She discusses changing university administrations, alluding to President James McCrocklin and the McCrocklin Scandal, interim president Jerome Cates, and others. She recalls "Lillian Dees Day" created by Dr. Henry Norris.

In her second interview, Merry Kone Fitzpatrick talks about graduating from high school and attending college at SWTSTC. Along with describing her college and graduate courses and certain professors like Professor Green, Retta Murphy, James Taylor, Betty Jane Kissler, and Emmie Craddock, she discusses what the school, her first job during WWII, and her work supervising student teachers were like. She describes the then-social science division and its faculty, as well as campus buildings like Old Main and certain local characters. This interview covers the 1930s through the 1960s.

Meeting minutes from the Texas State University System Board of Regents.