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Meeting minutes from the Texas State Teachers Colleges Board of Regents.

Sam and Johnny talk about rugged individualism, luck and circumstances as factors of success and achievement. They try to define rugged and come to the conclusion that it is a false concept. They also briefly talk about the movie “The Right Stuff” and various things about it. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Sam and Johnny continue their discussion on rugged individualism, what the rugged individual would posses as far as material things, knowing whether you have ruggedness or not and having the “right stuff”. They also make a list of people throughout history who have had the “right stuff”. Sam also discusses filming The Right Stuff and how hard it was to film yet everyone worked as a team and how writing letters are a more personal way of communication. Conversations between Sam Shepard and Johnny Dark.

Lillian Dees talks about her experiences working under many different deans, including Bruce Roach, Ralph Houston, Keith Lovin, and departments, including Journalism and News Service and Liberal Arts. She describes how she acquired her final position as Director of the LBJ Student Center. She also recalls the changes in the campus, including buildings and student body population, over the twenty-year period that she was employed at Texas State. She discusses changing university administrations, alluding to President James McCrocklin and the McCrocklin Scandal, interim president Jerome Cates, and others. She recalls "Lillian Dees Day" created by Dr. Henry Norris.

In her second interview, Merry Kone Fitzpatrick talks about graduating from high school and attending college at SWTSTC. Along with describing her college and graduate courses and certain professors like Professor Green, Retta Murphy, James Taylor, Betty Jane Kissler, and Emmie Craddock, she discusses what the school, her first job during WWII, and her work supervising student teachers were like. She describes the then-social science division and its faculty, as well as campus buildings like Old Main and certain local characters. This interview covers the 1930s through the 1960s.

Meeting minutes from the Texas State University System Board of Regents.